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[mysterious music]
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- The world you know is not
what it seems.
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[crickets chirping]
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[thunder rumbling]
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Buried deep inside one of
America's leading universities
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lies one of the largest
collections
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of paranormal research
in the world.
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- This thing is something
we communicated--
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- This is a spirit.
[speaking indistinctly]
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- I saw a little object
hovering.
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- From telepathy, possession,
the abduction experience...
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- They said, "We're coming."
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- Collected over decades,
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much of it has never
been seen by the public.
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- This is truly
a halfway house
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between your world and ours.
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- I'm scouring the globe
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looking for new people
with extraordinary stories.
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- I realized my dream is
about to happen.
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- Their accounts will be
preserved
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alongside some of the most
remarkable cases in history.
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- She's more than telepathic.
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- I felt like
I was being watched.
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- I saw really
horrific things.
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- There's no way for me
to put into words
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what I went through.
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[eerie music]
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♪ ♪
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[crickets chirping]
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[thunder rumbling]
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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- For over a decade,
our archive has collected
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evidence of the paranormal.
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Throughout time,
people have used religion
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to help them understand
supernatural beings.
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This goes way before
the Biblical texts.
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These entities have appeared
in various forms across time,
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from celestial beings,
sylphs, angels, demons.
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But in today's world,
more people than ever
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believe in extraterrestrials.
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It's led to a debate
about whether aliens
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could be today's
equivalent of demons.
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There's even a new term
for these beings.
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"Nonhuman intelligence" is
a very modern expression.
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NHI can mean extraterrestrial,
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demonic, angelic, extradimensional.
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It comes from the UFO world.
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We'd like to know,
what are people really seeing
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when they experience these
forms of intelligence?
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And why do these encounters
take place?
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I've asked Diana Pasulka,
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a leading researcher
in this area,
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to come and help me
investigate this phenomenon.
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- The core of my work has been
that humanity has always been
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in touch with intelligences
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that have not originated
from Earth.
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In the past,
people have utilized religion
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to understand these
experiences that they have.
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Today, people are looking
at these experiences
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through a more
technological framework.
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For some people,
it looks like angel contact,
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and for other people,
extraterrestrial contact.
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- So I've invited two people
who've had encounters
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with different
nonhuman intelligences
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to share their stories.
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Their testimonies
will be recorded
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and added to the archive
for future research.
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- I'm Nancy Burson,
and I'm an artist.
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I don't believe in
the demonic.
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The beings,
they survive on violence.
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They love it.
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So are they aliens?
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Yeah, they are.
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I moved to New York in 1968.
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I lived a life of an artist
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that didn't quite know
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I had seen interactive art,
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one of the reasons why
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to create an aging machine.
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I spent a couple of years
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usually on weekends.
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I was counting on
software engineers to help me,
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because obviously,
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There was a videotape that was
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- What we're gonna look like
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is a subject that interests
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Conceptual artist
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experimenting with a technique
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that would project
the human face
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any number of years
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- I really do think
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a 75-80% accuracy range.
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The facial mapping technology
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by the FBI to find
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The images of facial morphing
I created in the '80s
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and in the '90s put me
in many of the museums
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and eventually came together
in a huge retrospective.
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At this point in my life,
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it was all just
science and art,
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but it was about to change.
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My son was born in '89.
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And when my son was 11,
we went to the UK on vacation.
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It was billed
as a Merlin journey.
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My son was very
into the Merlin books,
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and so it was
just such a thrill
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to take this journey together.
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Wiltshire is the home
of the crop circles.
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I had a natural curiosity
to experience them.
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So we--we ventured out.
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We waited for the sun
to go down completely
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before we entered
the crop circle.
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Suddenly, there were
these two lights,
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these two balls of light,
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that were floating
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[camera shutter clicks]
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They were about 6 to 9 feet
away from me,
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darting in and out.
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It was not like anything
I've ever felt before.
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I took five
consecutive pictures.
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After that,
they just disappeared,
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completely out of sight.
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- So the crop circles are
such a phenomenon, right?
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We have records
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from before the 1800s.
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And we know that
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but not all of them.
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Even today, some defy
conventional explanation,
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because we don't have the tools
to create what we see.
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so they're often thought
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to have been caused
by nonhuman intelligence,
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the extraterrestrials.
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- I didn't really understand,
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but I knew it
to be very powerful.
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The balls of light sent
pure love.
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It was like my heart
had broken open.
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I felt like it was
the beginning of something.
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- So Nancy, she has
her inaugurating experience
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near an epicenter
of crop circle activity.
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I could totally understand why
she was so fascinated by them,
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because when you become
interested in crop circles,
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it opens up
a whole belief system
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about who could have
done this.
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- I wonder if Nancy's
artistic creativity
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is part of the reason
that these beings
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are connecting with her.
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Are they seeing a talent in
her that they want to harness?
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- Coming back from England,
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I felt like I missed
these balls of light.
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And so I began to feel like,
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OK, well, if I could see them
in Wiltshire,
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why can't I see them
in New York?
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I felt that, if I put
two maps up of Wiltshire,
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that they would perhaps
come and visit.
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And so I did.
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And when I did,
it was like, suddenly,
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there was balls of light
darting everywhere,
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and it was scary.
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And I remember asking them
to slow down,
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because they were so fast.
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It was overwhelming.
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What is this?
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I really felt like
they answered the call.
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- I felt like I opened
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a vortex to something.
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I think the connection
to aliens
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had already been in my mind
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when I really saw
those balls of light
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and when I first saw
the crop circle.
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At that point,
they seemed to be listening,
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and I was speaking to them.
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And it wasn't like
verbal communication.
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It was something else.
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So after
the balls of light appeared,
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my work did really quite well,
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and there were
international exhibitions,
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huge retrospectives.
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I was honored, respected,
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and that was wonderful.
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And I felt like
they were here for a purpose.
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I was given a gift,
and this was my destiny.
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- So Nancy invited
this nonhuman intelligence
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into her life and then found
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even greater success
as an artist.
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I wonder if there's
a connection here.
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These light beings appear
to be benevolent,
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but it's not clear what
their purpose is for Nancy.
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- When people report
these experiences,
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they often report that
they're wonderful and amazing,
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and they want to have it again.
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But then it turns dark.
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And so it appears almost
like a grooming procedure.
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- Every summer,
my son and I would go
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back to the crop circles.
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I was in a bathtub
in Wiltshire,
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and all of a sudden
in my bath were
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all these tiny,
little gold pellets.
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I had no idea what they were.
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Did they actually come
out of me,
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or were they placed there?
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And that was when
I actually heard a threat.
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[indistinct whispering]
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What I heard was,
"You will be doing,
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"from now on,
what we specifically ask you,
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"for we are your god.
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There is no other."
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So that revelation sent me
emotionally reeling.
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I felt completely ruled
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by the balls of light.
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It was really quite scary.
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- It seems that
the light beings
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are turning against Nancy.
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Perhaps now that she's had
such professional success,
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they actually want
something back in return.
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[ominous music]
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- We returned home
to New York,
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and I got these gold pellets
for three days
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in bathtubs and showers.
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I knew that these probably
did not come out of my body.
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They're being delivered
because I understood that
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these beings can carry
tiny, little things
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and drop them anywhere.
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It was quite bizarre.
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And I knew at that point
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that they really needed
to be analyzed.
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Analysis came
from different places.
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One of them was
the University of Atlanta.
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And there was cesium in them.
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And cesium is radioactive.
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[dramatic music]
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And that was
a complete surprise to me.
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[tense music]
268
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- When I heard Nancy talk
about the pellets,
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I was amazed.
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She's reaching out
to scientists,
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and she's saying,
"Analyze this."
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She's bringing data.
273
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- The fact that
Nancy is asking
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the scientific community
to help her illustrates
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that some people are
turning to technology,
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rather than religion,
to explain the impossible.
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♪ ♪
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- After the pellets,
there were suddenly
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crystals coming out
of my hands and my feet.
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I would wear socks on my hands
to collect the crystals.
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The medical community did not
particularly understand.
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Why is this coming out of me?
283
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It's been 18 years.
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♪
285
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[scoffs]
286
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♪
287
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I keep searching for labs
and material scientists
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who would help me.
289
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Yale labs noted that there was
a great deal of silicon.
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There are forms of silicon that
do exist within the human body.
291
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But this was not
that kind of silicon.
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I think it means
it's not from here.
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♪ ♪
294
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- So she metabolized
something physical,
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which in our reality is
impossible,
296
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but does happen occasionally.
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And she had it corroborated.
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♪ ♪
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- I think that kind
of materialization is
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really powerful, certainly
in the history of religions.
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♪ ♪
302
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- I know of Catholic artifacts
that are anomalous,
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are studied,
like the Shroud of Turin.
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- It's fascinating
for Diana and I,
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as scholars of religion,
306
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to hear Nancy talk about
manifesting these crystals,
307
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because it has an element
of the miraculous about it.
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But Nancy isn't religious.
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Nancy is framing this in terms
of extraterrestrial life
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and nonhuman intelligences
and very contemporary things.
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But historically, this--
she would've--
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she would have been
Joan of Arc.
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Joan of Arc is considered
a saint, because like Nancy,
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she had an encounter
with light beings
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back in the 15th century.
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Their divine guidance led her
to speak with dead saints
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and predict France's war
with England.
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But here, Nancy's visions come
through her art.
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♪
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- Time passed, and one night,
everything changed completely.
321
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[dramatic music]
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I suddenly started seeing
Greys around my bed.
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These were beings in light,
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but they were still
just slanty-eyed Greys
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that people see in solid form.
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♪ ♪
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They would give me
anxiety attacks.
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I was threatened with
jumping out a window.
329
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♪ ♪
330
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I didn't want to be suicidal.
331
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♪ ♪
332
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These were very scary moments.
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♪ ♪
334
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And a couple of times,
I felt like, am I dead?
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♪
336
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[ominous music]
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- So I can see them
as balls of light,
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but I also see them as Greys.
339
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And they change from solid
to light endlessly.
340
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After I began seeing
these Grey-like aliens,
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I realized all these things
are constructs.
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They were sent
as kind of a test
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to see how afraid I could be.
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[tense music]
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♪ ♪
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And at that point,
our relationship had changed.
347
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I knew that I wasn't gonna
get rid of them.
348
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These instances in our lives
are destiny.
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They are the ones
that actually control
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the consciousness that we have.
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♪
352
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And then at a certain point,
I began to create art
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with their help.
354
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When I first began to know
that artistic expression
355
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is not done alone, it's done
in collaboration with them,
356
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it was really easy
to make my art.
357
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The balls of light have
been with me for 25 years.
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My current work is a reflection
of what they have given me.
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And so the paintings
that I've created
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are actually what I call
photonography
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because they're built
on a grid system
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of two up and two down.
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It's their pattern.
364
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It runs through the universe.
365
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- What I think is most
remarkable about Nancy's story
366
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is the way she responded
to the nonhuman intelligences
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through art.
368
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Over the years,
she's accepted them
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as part of her life and work.
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But I really do wonder
whether she'd ever want
371
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to give up her relationship
with these light beings.
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If Nancy removes
the possessing spirits,
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does she not also
remove the future art?
374
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And is it worth it?
375
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I don't have an answer
to that question,
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but it does occur to me
that these entities are
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somehow related
to her creativity.
378
00:19:13,064 --> 00:19:16,415
Perhaps the reason
the light beings came to Nancy
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was because she has
a visionary mind
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that is ahead of its time.
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- I really do think that
we're hitting within
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a 75%, 80% accuracy range.
383
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The balls of light are not
God to me anymore.
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They're more what I would call
the physics.
385
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- That's a very
contemporary way
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of expressing this, I think.
387
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In other words, she's not going
back to a religious framework.
388
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She's going
to a scientific framework.
389
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- What I'd like to submit
to Jeff's collection
390
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is one of the small pellets,
as well as some of my crystals.
391
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I think it's free energy.
392
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[tense music]
393
00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:08,903
- Nancy's experience gives us
a modern
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and increasingly
common interpretation
395
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that nonhuman intelligence
can be extraterrestrial.
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♪ ♪
397
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Our archive contains rare
and unseen footage
398
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of a visionary Catholic priest
399
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who had similarly modern
views on aliens
400
00:20:28,052 --> 00:20:30,185
dating back decades.
401
00:20:30,272 --> 00:20:32,447
♪ ♪
402
00:20:32,448 --> 00:20:35,277
- Corrado Balducci,
he was a theologian
403
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of the Catholic Church,
an exorcist.
404
00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:40,890
He believed that
extraterrestrials were
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a separate category, even,
from angels and demons,
406
00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:47,419
and a lot of people are
upset by that.
407
00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:50,249
- [speaking Italian]
408
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- [speaking Italian]
409
00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:43,431
- There's the idea that,
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if we have the smoking gun
of alien contact,
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that this would decimate
religion.
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00:21:51,005 --> 00:21:54,661
This is the idea of
catastrophic disclosure.
413
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And I definitely don't
believe that.
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Religious people already have
415
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a category
for nonhuman intelligence.
416
00:22:00,971 --> 00:22:02,843
God is
a nonhuman intelligence.
417
00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:04,714
They're already comfortable
with that notion.
418
00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:08,805
Balducci is a figure that
I think we can look to.
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00:22:08,936 --> 00:22:12,331
It's not a catastrophe for him
to hold these beliefs
420
00:22:12,461 --> 00:22:16,552
that seem incompatible,
but yet are not.
421
00:22:16,639 --> 00:22:19,990
- Some religious people view
nonhuman intelligence as
422
00:22:20,077 --> 00:22:24,038
being demonic,
not extraterrestrial.
423
00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:25,561
With this in mind,
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I've invited
our second experiencer
425
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to tell her own story
about her demonic encounters.
426
00:22:31,959 --> 00:22:35,527
[mysterious music]
427
00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,617
- My name is Annie.
428
00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,749
I worked for the Los Angeles
Police Department
429
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,317
for 18 years.
430
00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:45,145
I am the one you call
431
00:22:45,146 --> 00:22:47,495
if something bad is
happening to you.
432
00:22:47,496 --> 00:22:51,326
And yet, I barely,
barely survived this.
433
00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:53,502
♪ ♪
434
00:22:53,589 --> 00:22:58,333
We cannot stop these creatures
from coming into our homes.
435
00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:00,640
♪ ♪
436
00:23:02,337 --> 00:23:05,384
[soft music]
437
00:23:05,471 --> 00:23:08,604
- I lived in LA
for most of my life.
438
00:23:08,735 --> 00:23:11,390
♪ ♪
439
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,002
I was brought up by my mother
440
00:23:15,089 --> 00:23:18,179
and the man who adopted me,
441
00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:20,355
who I call my father.
442
00:23:20,442 --> 00:23:22,836
♪ ♪
443
00:23:22,923 --> 00:23:25,404
I was baptized as an infant.
444
00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:29,886
I grew up being religious.
445
00:23:34,717 --> 00:23:38,591
But when I was about 13,
my grandmother told me that
446
00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:43,073
my mother got pregnant
very young.
447
00:23:43,204 --> 00:23:46,599
She also said that the man
who I thought was my father
448
00:23:46,729 --> 00:23:48,905
was not my biological father.
449
00:23:48,992 --> 00:23:51,386
He had adopted me
when I was a baby.
450
00:23:51,473 --> 00:23:55,956
So there was this question
about who my real father was.
451
00:23:56,043 --> 00:24:00,047
To find out the truth,
I was devastated.
452
00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:03,093
[ominous music]
453
00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:09,273
Time passed,
and I was hanging out.
454
00:24:09,404 --> 00:24:12,276
I was wide awake, and suddenly,
455
00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:17,368
a very large, black shadow
456
00:24:17,499 --> 00:24:20,676
appeared in the doorway.
457
00:24:20,763 --> 00:24:24,071
I was absolutely terrified.
458
00:24:24,158 --> 00:24:26,552
♪ ♪
459
00:24:26,682 --> 00:24:28,858
And it got on top of me.
460
00:24:28,989 --> 00:24:31,861
♪ ♪
461
00:24:31,948 --> 00:24:35,169
I could feel
an evil malevolence.
462
00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:37,301
I was brought up religious,
463
00:24:37,388 --> 00:24:38,912
and so I thought
these were demons.
464
00:24:38,999 --> 00:24:40,696
♪ ♪
465
00:24:40,783 --> 00:24:42,611
And that's why I would pray.
466
00:24:42,742 --> 00:24:44,700
I would pray to God
with everything I had.
467
00:24:44,831 --> 00:24:46,746
♪ ♪
468
00:24:46,833 --> 00:24:50,314
And it never worked.
469
00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:54,188
- People have talked
about experiencing demons
470
00:24:54,275 --> 00:24:58,018
as far back as we can see.
471
00:24:58,105 --> 00:25:04,764
The demon was this genius
that could be bad or good.
472
00:25:04,851 --> 00:25:08,419
It's not yet clear
why Annie is being targeted
473
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:11,031
by these entities,
but already,
474
00:25:11,118 --> 00:25:14,425
she adopts a different
perspective from Nancy
475
00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:18,081
by framing the experience
through a religious lens.
476
00:25:18,212 --> 00:25:21,171
[tense music]
477
00:25:21,258 --> 00:25:23,870
- I continued to have
these experiences
478
00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:26,437
throughout my 20s and 30s.
479
00:25:26,568 --> 00:25:28,309
♪ ♪
480
00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:34,489
These creatures just pour evil
off of them.
481
00:25:34,576 --> 00:25:37,884
I didn't have any idea
what this thing was.
482
00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:41,104
There was no internet
at that time,
483
00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:43,672
and so this was, in my mind,
very supernatural.
484
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:47,023
♪ ♪
485
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:51,375
When I was in my 20s,
486
00:25:51,462 --> 00:25:54,727
I joined the Los Angeles
Police Department.
487
00:25:54,814 --> 00:25:57,730
I loved it.
488
00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:01,255
I was promoted to a detective.
489
00:26:01,342 --> 00:26:02,865
During this time,
490
00:26:02,952 --> 00:26:05,433
Elliott came on loan
to our unit.
491
00:26:07,391 --> 00:26:09,524
- I joined LAPD in 1993,
492
00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:11,439
which was the year after
the Rodney King riots.
493
00:26:11,526 --> 00:26:14,790
[shouting, clamoring]
494
00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:16,966
So Los Angeles,
from a policing point of view,
495
00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:18,968
was a very busy place.
496
00:26:19,099 --> 00:26:21,971
[tense music]
497
00:26:22,102 --> 00:26:23,103
♪ ♪
498
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:24,626
So I went on loan
499
00:26:24,713 --> 00:26:27,847
to the narcotics
undercover unit,
500
00:26:27,934 --> 00:26:30,589
and that's where we met.
501
00:26:30,719 --> 00:26:32,982
She was a very good cop--
502
00:26:33,069 --> 00:26:34,984
brave and tough.
503
00:26:35,071 --> 00:26:37,987
But there's a soft side too.
504
00:26:38,118 --> 00:26:42,339
♪ ♪
505
00:26:42,426 --> 00:26:43,993
- We started dating,
506
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,779
and we ended up
getting married.
507
00:26:46,866 --> 00:26:49,433
It was actually
a fabulous time in my life.
508
00:26:51,435 --> 00:26:55,004
But I had to explain to Elliot
509
00:26:55,135 --> 00:27:00,488
that I had these things,
these shadows,
510
00:27:00,575 --> 00:27:02,142
visiting me
in the middle of the night.
511
00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:08,365
- I remember Annie telling me
about being paralyzed,
512
00:27:08,496 --> 00:27:11,107
but I didn't really fully
understand it,
513
00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:13,196
because I never experienced it.
514
00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:16,069
- I never thought
I was hallucinating
515
00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:18,027
because it was so terrifying.
516
00:27:18,158 --> 00:27:20,203
[eerie music]
517
00:27:20,290 --> 00:27:24,643
I had periods of waking up
518
00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:28,037
with unexplained bruises
on my body.
519
00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:30,300
I had scratches.
520
00:27:30,387 --> 00:27:33,260
It was absolutely bizarre.
521
00:27:33,347 --> 00:27:36,089
♪ ♪
522
00:27:36,176 --> 00:27:38,874
- To have a bruise like that
on the inside of your thigh,
523
00:27:38,961 --> 00:27:41,442
that big, you would know
if you did it.
524
00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:44,880
How is that possibly happening?
525
00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:46,708
- Within the history
of Catholicism,
526
00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:49,189
the very famous
Saint Padre Pio
527
00:27:49,276 --> 00:27:54,020
would keep diaries
of his experiences,
528
00:27:54,107 --> 00:27:56,936
and he would say that he had
529
00:27:57,023 --> 00:28:00,243
had physical scuffles
with the dark side
530
00:28:00,330 --> 00:28:04,944
and have bruises
and scratches.
531
00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:07,207
So you do see this within
the Catholic tradition.
532
00:28:10,210 --> 00:28:12,255
- I frequently went to church,
533
00:28:12,342 --> 00:28:16,651
and I would pray for help,
because I didn't have
534
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,653
a lot of context for it
other than,
535
00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:20,786
these are demons
that are after me.
536
00:28:23,702 --> 00:28:25,225
How did I become a focus
537
00:28:25,355 --> 00:28:27,096
of nonhuman intelligence?
538
00:28:27,183 --> 00:28:28,837
How did this happen?
539
00:28:31,274 --> 00:28:32,841
When I was in my 30s,
540
00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:36,365
I started looking
at adoption forums
541
00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:40,370
to see if I could find
my biological father,
542
00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:45,419
and I came across
a post from him.
543
00:28:45,549 --> 00:28:49,902
We became in touch,
and we decided that
544
00:28:49,989 --> 00:28:51,251
we would meet up for lunch.
545
00:28:51,338 --> 00:28:53,644
[tense music]
546
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:57,126
- It was a very strange
meeting.
547
00:28:57,213 --> 00:29:00,869
He was very, very slippery.
548
00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:03,132
♪ ♪
549
00:29:03,219 --> 00:29:08,007
He was trying to answer
questions that Annie had,
550
00:29:08,137 --> 00:29:11,532
but at the same time,
almost as though he was lying.
551
00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:13,316
♪ ♪
552
00:29:13,403 --> 00:29:15,536
- I gave him a journal,
553
00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:19,409
and this journal asks
a lot of leading questions
554
00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:22,064
like, what was
your childhood like?
555
00:29:22,151 --> 00:29:23,762
And I thought that
this was a really good way
556
00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:25,372
for me to get to know him.
557
00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:27,722
♪ ♪
558
00:29:27,853 --> 00:29:32,509
And during that first meeting,
it came up that
559
00:29:32,596 --> 00:29:34,990
we worked for the Los Angeles
Police Department.
560
00:29:35,077 --> 00:29:37,645
[suspenseful music]
561
00:29:37,732 --> 00:29:41,214
My biological father said,
"I'm gonna have to
562
00:29:41,344 --> 00:29:45,392
let you know that I did
five years in prison."
563
00:29:45,479 --> 00:29:47,481
♪ ♪
564
00:29:47,568 --> 00:29:51,528
Ultimately, I discovered
that he was involved
565
00:29:51,615 --> 00:29:55,402
with an international
human trafficking ring.
566
00:29:55,489 --> 00:29:58,535
He was running a brothel.
567
00:29:58,622 --> 00:30:01,495
He procured underage girls.
568
00:30:01,582 --> 00:30:06,543
And he was carrying out
occult rituals.
569
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:09,764
Several of the city management
of San Francisco
570
00:30:09,851 --> 00:30:14,247
and the police department were
customers of his.
571
00:30:14,334 --> 00:30:17,728
What he was saying was
so incredibly outrageous.
572
00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,252
I had a hard time believing it.
573
00:30:19,339 --> 00:30:21,384
♪ ♪
574
00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:24,735
I actually called
the newspaper
575
00:30:24,823 --> 00:30:28,957
in San Francisco to verify,
576
00:30:29,088 --> 00:30:31,786
and everything he told me
turned out to be true.
577
00:30:33,353 --> 00:30:35,659
I was horrified.
578
00:30:37,270 --> 00:30:40,794
Here I was,
on one side of the law,
579
00:30:40,795 --> 00:30:45,234
and after 35 years of not
knowing my biological father,
580
00:30:45,321 --> 00:30:46,714
I find out that
581
00:30:46,801 --> 00:30:49,238
he's the absolute worst
of the worst.
582
00:30:49,369 --> 00:30:51,545
♪ ♪
583
00:30:53,286 --> 00:30:56,201
[tense music]
584
00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:59,031
- I had a falling out
with my biological father,
585
00:30:59,118 --> 00:31:03,034
and I got the journal
back from him,
586
00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:07,866
and I put it away
in my storage unit
587
00:31:07,996 --> 00:31:10,825
and didn't have a look at it.
588
00:31:10,956 --> 00:31:16,135
I didn't want any contact
with this man ever again.
589
00:31:16,222 --> 00:31:19,181
♪ ♪
590
00:31:21,923 --> 00:31:25,839
I continued to have
experiences with entities.
591
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,321
[eerie music]
592
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:31,802
Things started to escalate
for me,
593
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,980
and one night,
I was taking a shower,
594
00:31:35,067 --> 00:31:36,633
and I was praying...
595
00:31:36,764 --> 00:31:39,766
♪ ♪
596
00:31:39,767 --> 00:31:45,555
And then a very beautiful
woman came down from above,
597
00:31:45,642 --> 00:31:49,995
and she came down
into my body.
598
00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:52,127
I felt her looking
out of my eyes.
599
00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:54,651
♪ ♪
600
00:31:54,738 --> 00:31:57,393
Because I was praying,
I assumed
601
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,484
this was going to be
a good entity,
602
00:32:01,571 --> 00:32:04,791
but there was something
malevolent about her...
603
00:32:04,792 --> 00:32:06,359
♪
604
00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:08,796
And I really felt like
605
00:32:08,927 --> 00:32:11,450
this entity wanted
to steal my soul.
606
00:32:11,451 --> 00:32:14,454
♪
607
00:32:14,541 --> 00:32:17,022
- NHI being interested
in our souls--
608
00:32:17,109 --> 00:32:20,242
so this is a belief that a lot
of spiritual people have.
609
00:32:20,329 --> 00:32:24,029
There are researchers who have
written books about this too.
610
00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:29,556
One of the most well-known
researchers in this field,
611
00:32:29,643 --> 00:32:33,168
Budd Hopkins, began
to take on this idea that
612
00:32:33,299 --> 00:32:37,216
maybe these experiences were
harmful to people.
613
00:32:37,303 --> 00:32:38,521
- That's OK.
614
00:32:38,608 --> 00:32:40,349
Lie down. You're OK, John.
615
00:32:40,436 --> 00:32:43,352
What always happens is
the person is paralyzed.
616
00:32:43,439 --> 00:32:44,484
They cannot move.
617
00:32:44,614 --> 00:32:46,137
They can be in bed at night.
618
00:32:46,138 --> 00:32:47,487
What just happened?
619
00:32:47,574 --> 00:32:49,836
- Someone came in the room.
- Uh-huh.
620
00:32:49,837 --> 00:32:53,753
Case after case after case
replicated the cases before.
621
00:32:53,754 --> 00:32:57,149
- And from my own research,
what I can say is that
622
00:32:57,236 --> 00:33:00,195
more than 60% of the people
that have talked to me
623
00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:02,763
about their own experiences
with NHI,
624
00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:05,721
these experiences were scary.
625
00:33:05,722 --> 00:33:09,813
They would prefer
not to have had them.
626
00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:11,685
- This was something
that was very difficult
627
00:33:11,772 --> 00:33:13,861
for me to deal with.
628
00:33:13,948 --> 00:33:17,125
By day,
I'm the person you call
629
00:33:17,212 --> 00:33:20,085
if something horrible is
happening to you.
630
00:33:20,172 --> 00:33:24,524
By night, I--I became helpless.
631
00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:26,439
- I think that
people like Annie are
632
00:33:26,526 --> 00:33:28,354
forces of good in the world.
633
00:33:28,441 --> 00:33:32,358
And if we're truly talking
about something malevolent,
634
00:33:32,445 --> 00:33:34,099
of course they're gonna
want to take down
635
00:33:34,186 --> 00:33:35,709
those forces of good.
636
00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:40,757
- So after that incident
in the shower,
637
00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:45,762
I reached out to a handful
of paranormal researchers.
638
00:33:47,155 --> 00:33:51,245
And I was told that there was
an occult connection
639
00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:54,945
to people
who experience demons.
640
00:33:55,033 --> 00:33:59,254
One of the very first
questions I was asked was,
641
00:33:59,341 --> 00:34:03,518
who in your family is
involved in the occult?
642
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,261
And right away,
I realized my biological father
643
00:34:07,262 --> 00:34:09,002
had been performing
occult rituals.
644
00:34:09,003 --> 00:34:13,051
[dramatic music]
645
00:34:13,181 --> 00:34:15,749
And I was cleaning out
my storage unit,
646
00:34:15,879 --> 00:34:18,272
and I came across that journal
647
00:34:18,273 --> 00:34:21,755
that my biological father
had given me.
648
00:34:21,842 --> 00:34:24,627
And when I looked
through this journal,
649
00:34:24,714 --> 00:34:27,891
it all just hit me.
650
00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:31,330
He walked out of his
Catholic religion
651
00:34:31,417 --> 00:34:33,506
and into Luciferianism...
652
00:34:33,593 --> 00:34:36,813
♪ ♪
653
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:41,948
The belief that Satan is
actually the good guy.
654
00:34:41,949 --> 00:34:47,346
"I used to believe in Christ
until God showed me different.
655
00:34:47,433 --> 00:34:51,132
"What is the strangest thing
you have ever seen?
656
00:34:51,219 --> 00:34:54,482
The devil."
657
00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:58,704
I decided to email
my biological father.
658
00:34:58,705 --> 00:35:02,230
In this email exchange,
he told me that
659
00:35:02,361 --> 00:35:08,236
he was carrying out occult
rituals out in the desert,
660
00:35:08,367 --> 00:35:13,546
and he had come into contact
with a female entity
661
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:16,157
that he describes as The Lady.
662
00:35:16,244 --> 00:35:18,507
[eerie music]
663
00:35:18,594 --> 00:35:21,075
There was an email exchange
664
00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:24,339
where he told me
he worked for the mob.
665
00:35:24,426 --> 00:35:27,821
He claimed that these entities
had saved his life
666
00:35:27,908 --> 00:35:29,953
on multiple occasions
and that he was
667
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,172
devoted to these entities.
668
00:35:32,173 --> 00:35:33,914
♪
669
00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:38,396
He was performing
sexual abuse and rituals
670
00:35:38,397 --> 00:35:41,486
in order to gain favor
from these entities.
671
00:35:41,487 --> 00:35:43,489
A light bulb came on.
672
00:35:43,576 --> 00:35:47,884
The connection that I'm having
to these entities
673
00:35:47,971 --> 00:35:50,931
could have originated
with my biological father.
674
00:35:51,018 --> 00:35:54,500
♪ ♪
675
00:35:56,284 --> 00:35:57,851
[tense music]
676
00:35:57,938 --> 00:35:59,722
- My biological father,
677
00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:03,422
he had chosen
to worship Satan.
678
00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:07,774
He was in contact with
an entity called The Lady.
679
00:36:07,861 --> 00:36:09,776
[indistinct whispering]
680
00:36:09,863 --> 00:36:11,821
♪ ♪
681
00:36:11,908 --> 00:36:14,650
- This sounds like
an intentional bargain.
682
00:36:14,737 --> 00:36:18,350
Annie believes her father made
a deal with the devil,
683
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,527
which is different than Nancy,
684
00:36:21,614 --> 00:36:23,529
who fell under the spell
of the light beings
685
00:36:23,659 --> 00:36:26,488
before they turned on her.
686
00:36:26,575 --> 00:36:29,274
[ominous music]
687
00:36:29,361 --> 00:36:32,842
- My biological father had
never seen me as a baby.
688
00:36:32,929 --> 00:36:36,150
We didn't have
any contact whatsoever.
689
00:36:36,237 --> 00:36:39,632
And yet he had experienced
the very same entity
690
00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:42,243
that I had experienced.
691
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:44,853
All of these experiences
actually sent me
692
00:36:44,854 --> 00:36:48,249
into a spiritual crisis.
693
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:51,165
[tense music]
694
00:36:51,252 --> 00:36:54,342
♪ ♪
695
00:36:54,429 --> 00:36:56,866
I met a pastor,
696
00:36:56,953 --> 00:36:59,434
and we decided
it was a good idea
697
00:36:59,565 --> 00:37:02,481
to go to deliverance,
an exorcism.
698
00:37:02,611 --> 00:37:05,440
[eerie music]
699
00:37:05,571 --> 00:37:07,964
♪ ♪
700
00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:10,358
- There was probably
about ten of us in the church.
701
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,145
- They were aware of my
biological father's
702
00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:17,235
involvement with the occult.
703
00:37:19,454 --> 00:37:23,241
They were focused
on exorcizing The Lady.
704
00:37:25,634 --> 00:37:27,375
They were telling
The Lady that
705
00:37:27,462 --> 00:37:30,857
she had to get out of my body.
706
00:37:30,944 --> 00:37:34,208
But I feel her in there again.
707
00:37:34,295 --> 00:37:36,254
[dramatic music]
708
00:37:36,341 --> 00:37:40,519
So they aggressively
start praying.
709
00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:43,826
[indistinct praying]
710
00:37:43,913 --> 00:37:46,046
- It almost seemed as though
there was a fight going on.
711
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:47,700
♪ ♪
712
00:37:47,787 --> 00:37:51,225
The gentleman to my left was
butting heads with the entity.
713
00:37:51,312 --> 00:37:53,532
♪ ♪
714
00:37:53,619 --> 00:37:57,187
- My entire body was
vibrating.
715
00:37:57,318 --> 00:38:00,147
[rumbling]
716
00:38:00,278 --> 00:38:02,671
- And eventually,
that entity did come out.
717
00:38:02,802 --> 00:38:07,241
♪ ♪
718
00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:10,026
And according to
the reaction on Annie's face,
719
00:38:10,113 --> 00:38:12,202
something did change.
720
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,727
[soft music]
721
00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:18,774
I always believed in God,
but I was just at a distance.
722
00:38:18,861 --> 00:38:22,474
But after Annie's deliverance,
723
00:38:22,561 --> 00:38:25,346
that's when everything
clicked for me.
724
00:38:25,433 --> 00:38:28,175
I believe
the demonic is 100% real.
725
00:38:28,262 --> 00:38:29,742
It is 100% real.
726
00:38:29,829 --> 00:38:32,353
♪ ♪
727
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:37,358
- After the deliverance,
I felt a lot better.
728
00:38:37,445 --> 00:38:39,882
My injuries went down.
729
00:38:39,969 --> 00:38:44,191
I stopped seeing the scratches
and the bruises.
730
00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:47,455
My faith was restored.
731
00:38:47,542 --> 00:38:51,416
I couldn't have gotten through
any of this without Elliot.
732
00:38:51,503 --> 00:38:53,592
I love him very much.
733
00:38:53,722 --> 00:38:55,376
[chuckles]
734
00:38:55,463 --> 00:38:58,205
[tense music]
735
00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,381
- We use this word "genetic"
too loosely,
736
00:39:00,512 --> 00:39:03,210
but there's something
in the family
737
00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:05,733
that's passed from
generation to generation.
738
00:39:05,734 --> 00:39:08,084
- It's so interesting
that, you know, the idea
739
00:39:08,171 --> 00:39:09,999
of the generational curse,
right...
740
00:39:10,086 --> 00:39:13,568
- Yeah.
- Is--is here, exemplified.
741
00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:16,266
- Annie is convinced that
742
00:39:16,354 --> 00:39:19,400
she is a victim
of a generational curse.
743
00:39:19,487 --> 00:39:23,404
It's an ancient idea
that we see across traditions,
744
00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:26,276
from the Bible
to Greek tragedy.
745
00:39:26,407 --> 00:39:28,670
♪ ♪
746
00:39:28,757 --> 00:39:32,108
- I had been told
by multiple researchers
747
00:39:32,195 --> 00:39:36,983
that these entities owned me
before I was even born
748
00:39:37,070 --> 00:39:40,378
because of the contact they had
with my biological father.
749
00:39:44,469 --> 00:39:49,169
I would like to submit to Jeff
the journal.
750
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:53,956
Once I found this journal,
I did not keep this in my house
751
00:39:54,087 --> 00:39:57,960
because of the idea
of entanglement.
752
00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:01,529
[tense music]
753
00:40:01,660 --> 00:40:04,924
- I wonder if Annie and Nancy
are part of a select group
754
00:40:05,011 --> 00:40:07,535
who are able to see
nonhuman intelligences.
755
00:40:07,622 --> 00:40:09,318
♪ ♪
756
00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:12,235
Their cases are
very different.
757
00:40:12,366 --> 00:40:15,848
Annie's experience is rooted
in a religious framework.
758
00:40:15,935 --> 00:40:17,937
She relies on her faith
759
00:40:18,024 --> 00:40:21,419
to free her
from demonic encounters.
760
00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,552
But Nancy views her
25-year relationship
761
00:40:24,683 --> 00:40:28,469
with extraterrestrials
through a scientific lens,
762
00:40:28,556 --> 00:40:31,472
and she's never managed
to free herself
763
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:33,779
from the light beings.
764
00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:37,043
So in a way,
science just can't give us
765
00:40:37,173 --> 00:40:38,697
the answers we seek.
766
00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:43,179
Yet religion can, in some way,
give us comfort.
767
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:46,748
- I think cases like Annie's
and cases like Nancy
768
00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:49,446
are good indications
that we can try
769
00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:50,752
to get rid of religion, right?
770
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:52,450
So we can say,
oh, we're secularized,
771
00:40:52,537 --> 00:40:54,277
you know, we're rational,
and so forth,
772
00:40:54,364 --> 00:40:57,933
but these kinds of things
still happen to people.
773
00:40:58,064 --> 00:41:01,459
I don't see why we would throw
religious frameworks away,
774
00:41:01,546 --> 00:41:03,722
because they've helped us
deal with NHI
775
00:41:03,852 --> 00:41:07,508
for thousands of years.
776
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,729
- We need more data
on these entities,
777
00:41:10,859 --> 00:41:13,340
and that is why
these stories are so important
778
00:41:13,427 --> 00:41:16,778
for our collection.
779
00:41:16,865 --> 00:41:19,607
If Nancy is controlled
by aliens
780
00:41:19,694 --> 00:41:22,436
and Annie is possessed
by demons,
781
00:41:22,567 --> 00:41:25,265
are they really describing
two different things?
782
00:41:25,352 --> 00:41:28,224
[dramatic music]
783
00:41:28,355 --> 00:41:31,750
♪ ♪
784
00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:36,015
The truth is in the eye
of the experiencer.
785
00:41:36,102 --> 00:41:39,801
Within these walls,
our archive has evidence
786
00:41:39,888 --> 00:41:45,372
that telepathy is real,
dreamers become prophets,
787
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:50,246
aliens abduct,
and the dead can speak.
788
00:41:50,333 --> 00:41:54,207
While tensions continue
between science and religion,
789
00:41:54,294 --> 00:41:57,384
we are seeing that
these extrasensory abilities
790
00:41:57,471 --> 00:42:00,039
could be connected.
791
00:42:00,126 --> 00:42:05,610
We are awakening to our own
superhuman potential.
792
00:42:05,697 --> 00:42:08,090
Maybe it's ourselves
that we've been waiting for.
793
00:42:08,221 --> 00:42:10,571
♪ ♪
794
00:42:10,658 --> 00:42:14,488
The truth is not
just out there.
795
00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:17,535
It's in here.
796
00:42:21,016 --> 00:42:23,932
[dramatic music]
797
00:42:24,063 --> 00:42:30,896
♪ ♪